Tuesday, November 02, 2010

Cameron Must Go. Now.

 Liam Fox..............Please.  Better late than never.

85% of Conservative members want powers repatriated from the EU.  49% want to quit altogether.   75% insist on at least a freeze in contributions and preferably a reduction in line with spending cuts being made in Britain - i.e 25%.

Cameron is simply not representing the views of Conservatives by agreeing to the 2.9% EU budget increase, even if there are vague promises of a freeze next year.  He is promising Merkel he will not be considering the holding of a referendum on Britain's membership, or demanding a 'loss of powers' referendum for the proposed Lisbon Treaty changes which effectively convert the EU into an economic government for Europe.

In short Cameron is not fit for purpose.  He is not representing the views of the people who elected him, and nor does he intend to do so.   Conservative MPs have to consider what to do next.

They will be faced with a resurgent UKIP in 2015, which could knock many of them out of Parliament, if they don't act now to remove Cameron.  Labour are imploding.  The Lib Dems have halved their support.  There will never be a better time to take on the corrupt elite that sits in control of the Conservative Party.    The first moves to remove Cameron could be started by a number of MPs writing to the 1922 Committee for Cameron to face a vote of confidence.

There is no need to threaten Osborne's financial strategy.  The EU is a major threat to Britain's fiscal discipline as it is.  Cameron will have to be got rid of,  as he has no intention of stopping our finances being ruined by Europe.  It were better though that he was got rid of now, and a new leader put in place.  There are plenty of highly talented individuals who would stop the EU from ruining us, and could carry on from here.  Cameron was brought in as the me-too Blair.  There is no need for such a person any longer.  Merely a responsible leader who realises that our financial needs are paramount, and caving in to making extra payments to the EU is no longer acceptable.  Strike now, is my advice, and strike hard.

OTHER SOURCES -


Labour enjoy more support amongst women than amongst men, a poll from Com Res suggests, confirming what many polls have indicated in the past. This appeared in PB comments this morning -

ComRes:
“The findings point to a “gender gap” after predictions that the cuts will hurt women more than men, partly because of the 500,000 job losses expected in the public sector over the next four years. The Tories are ahead among men, by 37 per cent to 36 per cent, but trail Labour by four points among women (38 to 34 per cent).”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/spending-cuts-leave-tories-behind-labour-in-poll-2122618.html









16 comments:

The Boiling Frog said...

Basically you're saying that the Conservatives should produce policies that attract lost voters, which is what I've argued on your blog for a long time.

It was never UKIP's fault for the Tories not winning but the Tories themselves (along with some other factors).

The Tories are a lost cause I'm afraid when it comes to Europe, most of the party's MPs are committed Europeans with one or two exceptions. But Carswell and Hannan aren't really going to fight.

The grassroots may feel differently but on the whole they will do what they always do, put party loyalty before country.

Daniel1979 said...

Hi Tapestry

Who would you propose lead the coup?

Tapestry said...

I appreciate your comments Frog, but don't misrepresent me. I always said that my support for Cameron was conditional. If his resistance to the EU passed a minimum test I would continue supporting him.

I always said that my reason for voting Conservative was to get as many backbenchers into Westminster as possible as that would facilitate Cameron's removal if he failed to measure up to promise.

I see Cameron's handling of the EU to date as unacceptably weak.

Daniel, the head of 1922 Committee is Graham Brady. If he receives enough letters from individual MPs calling for a vote of confidence in Cameron's leadership, he is duty bound to put the motion to the Parliamentary Party.

MPs should not delay. Cameron has flunked all his promises on the EU. UKIP will tear away from here if Cameron is not stopped selling out to European financial and economic government.

Helmer MEP is publicly criticising Cameron, as is Hannan MEP, and Carswell MP. If these folk, or at least their MP supporters have any balls, they must fight now, and try to push Cameron out. Either that or face electoral oblivion in a while.

The MEPs should possibly lead the call to push Cameron out. If not the process can be anonymous to begin with. My question is what are they waiting for?

The Boiling Frog said...

Sorry Mr Tap, I don't misrepresent you, your position has always been quite clear - if we all voted Tory then 'Tory Eurosceptics' could keep Cameron in check.

You have also consistently blamed UKIP for nearly letting Brown in again (and you have argued that again on EUReferendum)

This has been proved to be complete bollocks. The Tories only need around 39 MPs to rebel to cause problems now - where are they? Are the Tories so bereft of eurosceptics that they can't even find 39 anti-eu MPs?

It has always been the same, Lib Dems, Conservatives, Labour they have always shown that when in power they are pro-EU.

And, despite disliking the chap intensely, I can't feeling that we would be less integrated now if Brown had won. That is a damning indictment of the current Tory party.

I don't doubt your anti EU credentials Tap, but it's not just Cameron it's the whole Tory party. They have shown themselves consistently to be pro-EU with or without Cameron

Anonymous said...

Helmer MEP is publicly criticising Cameron, as is Hannan MEP, and Carswell MP. If these folk, or at least their MP supporters have any balls, they must fight now, and try to push Cameron out. Either that or face electoral oblivion in a while.

Hahahahahaha. Electoral oblivion it is then. You can't say that you weren't warned, collaborator.

Anonymous said...

The game's up mate.

Blue Labour have their man in the driving seat.

Furthermore, with the yellow one seated up front your party is now left-hand drive only.

What Heath started Cameron will finish.

On his blog EU Referendum has you down as a fool.

Steve

Autonomous Mind said...

The kindest thing that can be said of you Tap is that you don't have much of a strategic mindset.

Before the election is was crystal clear what Cameron was like. Only delusion or a thirst for unprincipled power for its own sake made people support him. Now they sit to the right of the Speaker's chair the Tories are not going to do anything to stop him.

You're getting what you voted for.

Tapestry said...

Lolz.

Ahem. The Conservative Party is a surviving party, and it will move to the safe ground. The trick is to move the ground. In 2001 IDS was elected in lieu of Ken Clarke and Michael POrtillo. If either one had made it, Britain would assuredly be in the Euro right now.

That's because Conservative MPs feared UKIP after the first reasonable showing in the 2001 GE.

IDS was got rid of by a thin majority, but the anti-Eurto policy survivied. UKIP effectively levered the COnservative Party its way just enough to have some effect.

UKIP is light years away from electing MPs, but that doesn't mean UKIP cannot be of some effect in levering the COnservatives again.

Now is a great moment to do so. Cameron has got it wrong and has exposed himself as feeble. The same COnservative MPs who elected IDS in 2001 would now choose a new leader again if UKIP surged from here.

Thankfully there are enough backbenchers to threaten Cameron, and overturn his leadership. That is why I suggested people voted Conservative and not UKIP in 2010.

I wopuld now suggest is a good moment to back UKIP once more, with the objective of levering Conservative MPs into self-preserving action.

Please try to calm down, the mob piling oin from EUReferendum. Engage ypour brains just for once before spitting blood at all who come oin your path. We want out of the EU, don't we. I am just telling yopu a way that that can come about.

What is really odd is that you all prefer to commit mass political suicide rather than win the game.

Robin said...

There was every reason to vote UKIP.
It would have shown that most people are EUrosceptic, that the EU issue could not be ignored, that votes are lost unless a party becomes EUrosceptic .
Right, now we`ve moved to the second step of your strategy ,- that Cameron will be removed .
When is this going to happen ?

Tapestry said...

Robin, I think you are the first person to read what I actually said. Thanks for that. I don't know the future. I am just suggesting that now would be agood time for the Conservative backbenches to start moves on Cameron. For the reasons that I give, the strongest one being survival against political opponents from both left and right.

Cameron has don all that is useful flor the eurosceptic cause by removing Brown, and NL. He is now expendable as he will bring the country to ruin by not dealing with the eiropean issue properly.

If it's according to my advice, now is the moment, while the backbenches have credibility. If they leave it for another day, the best moment to pull the rug from Cameron will be lost.

Anonymous said...

... its like watching two Londoners arguing over a broken beer glass during the Blitz in 'ere.

In the real world our nation is dissolving gentlemen.

Wake up! Your country needs you, not your party - Churchill put this country first.

LibLabCon, that's all there is so if you want out say so, and stop messing about.

Steve

Twig said...

Don't hold your breath. The Tories are not EU sceptic nor are they conservative.

Tapestry said...

That's as maybe. But Tories like to survive, and this way they are heading for oblivion. MPs will act once they look around and realise how much they've been lied to, and how insecure their future now is.

The Lib Dem game is collapsing. Labour are going to attack from a eurosceptic viewpoint, and UKIP will surge.

Either that or accept their fate. Or they will dump Cameron.

Agincourt said...

Eurosceptics are united that Cameron must go, but are Tory MPs? If so, how many, & who?

Anonymous said...

Eurosceptics are united that Cameron must go. But are Tory MPs also? If so, how many, & who?

Tapestry said...

We will see in tomorrow's vote in the Commons.