tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30136383.post920275604504249788..comments2024-03-07T10:17:41.979+00:00Comments on the tap: MPs Must Fight BackTapestryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17267094484651413428noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30136383.post-75988494837946943642009-10-15T03:19:34.548+00:002009-10-15T03:19:34.548+00:00Steve - I wrote this on political betting. I'...Steve - I wrote this on political betting. I'm serious..<br /><br /><i>The Irish referendum shows that a government willing to play around with the voting system can win big.<br /><br />Fraud is going to play a huge role this time in Britain too. In 2005 the evidence of postal vote fraud was clear. Nothing has been done.<br /><br />Now they can ’store’ ballot boxes overnight so there are even more opportunities to rig polls. <br /><br />Until there is a proper voting system, Brown can more or less specify what result he wants and get it.</i>Tapestryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17267094484651413428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30136383.post-71732842572490620062009-10-15T02:57:37.448+00:002009-10-15T02:57:37.448+00:00Thanks Steve. I see from your blog that you are l...Thanks Steve. I see from your blog that you are like-minded with me in many ways.<br /><br />The Lib Dems, counterintuitively, would be wiped out by PR as the Greens would depart from voting Lib Dem. That's why LD came 4th in the Euro elections. There would be no more 'prostitute' Parties, pretending to be what they are not. <br /><br />Taking the Euro elections as my guide, I see the Conservatives and UKIP as number 1 and 2, and with a myriad of small parties, all eurosceptic, pushing Labour and Lib Dem into permanent europhile minority.<br /><br />The eurosceptic British electorate would punish any party that acted in a europhile way, and reward the opposite.<br /><br />With FPTP, the media can use the small parties to chip away at the current Conservative majority, and all the pressures are on party leaders to be europhile to keep the media sweet.<br /><br />In Britain PR would break the power of the media. <br /><br />Otherwise I agree with you.<br /><br />The biggest voter in Britain is the non-voter. The non-voter would be inclined to vote for small parties and keep Labour and Lib Dem out of power.Tapestryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17267094484651413428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30136383.post-63674176776400876662009-10-14T23:20:12.297+00:002009-10-14T23:20:12.297+00:00You make some fair points, but I think you're ...You make some fair points, but I think you're off target to presume the money means nothing to people. <br /><br />The average person isn't a political activist like you (and I) and so while they may 'feel' something wrong because of what you describe, what really gets their goat is people preaching the high path and taking the low path. Its understandable.<br /><br />I like your proposals with the exception of proportional representation - which is the best way to remove all democratic accountability and reduce connectivity with the public. <br /><br />The only people who seem to seriously think its a good idea are those who stand to gain from it because they can't win a straight election as often as they'd like. This, in my opinion, is simple opportunism.Steve Tierneyhttp://www.stevetierney.org/blognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30136383.post-65337682580789085562009-10-14T20:48:41.489+00:002009-10-14T20:48:41.489+00:00Val, I understand your anger, but is your only con...Val, I understand your anger, but is your only concern with government about money?<br /><br />I guess my idealistic notions about democracy don't mean much to you.<br /><br />I care more about not being controlled by state power, and having a working democracy to rule us.<br /><br />What do you think of the Blairs becoming President and First Lady of Europe? Are they pond life in your view? Will that make you angry too?Tapestryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17267094484651413428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30136383.post-46573792855334813252009-10-14T19:34:00.526+00:002009-10-14T19:34:00.526+00:00I Give A Fig What They STEAL Off Me As Do Manny Ot...I Give A Fig What They STEAL Off Me As Do Manny Others These People Are Scum The Lowest Form Of Pondlife And Should Be Banged Up For Crimes Against The State !Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08091897764534444229noreply@blogger.com